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Afterlife Dreaming, Immortality and Concept of Time
Comparing a dream state afterlife to immortality in heaven
(2nd edition - March 2008) by A.O. Kime
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Memories, dreams and forever
While thoughts and images stored in our memory banks seem to be the stuff
dreams are made of… plus the fact the human brain couldn’t function without
memory, there may be yet another function which memory serves. Memories may
constitute entirely our existence in the hereafter.
The idea of an eternal dream state following death isn't new however... its
simplistic nature says it surely originated in antiquity long before the
concepts of reincarnation and immortality in
'heaven'. While a far less common belief, albeit persistent, it deserves further
consideration. After all, the lingering uncertainties about the popular beliefs
seem to haunt mankind interminably. The unsatisfied question as to how an
afterlife might manifest itself creates a sense of inadequacy. Beliefs should
'square', people think.
Yet, to investigate this, can logic serve us at all? Is it even possible to
determine which scenario is more likely? Well, perhaps in trying to imagine the
problems the creator might encounter would yield some clues. In doing so, it will
also establish the line of thinking put forth herein which will hopefully
develop a receptive frame-of-mind. After all,
receptiveness requires a comfort zone with the flow of logic before one is
willing to temporarily shelf their preconceived notions.
Flesh & blood immortality
While the creator is surely capable of producing a body (or rejuvenating the
same) for the purpose of granting an immortal presence in 'heaven' if he
wanted... but it would seem a complex undertaking if that were the case. Of a
process wholly unimaginable, we might only presume cell reproduction would
somehow be altered whereby a human body wouldn’t age. Or, possibly, it could be
a case immortals aren’t comprised of flesh and blood… but instead being of a
composition totally alien to us.
While flesh and blood is what we commonly think of which can support life, we
often forget trees and plants are living creatures too. While wooden immortals
seems unlikely, it just points out the various types of life which can exist. Who
knows… in allowing for the allegorical nature of Greek mythology perhaps
the titans were of an alien composition.
Still, It doesn't seem 'natural'... being out of character for passiveness.
Memories and free will
If immortality is possible in that manner… then what happens to our earthly memory?
After death, will our memory banks be wiped clean? If
they are… then what about all we’ve learned about knowing right from wrong?
If we don’t retain our memory, aren’t we just as likely to repeat the same
mistakes? Surely we would be given ‘free will’… without free will, immortality
wouldn’t seem worth having.
At any rate, a retained memory would seem to pose a lesser problem (for God) than
what an erased memory would pose. There could be all sorts of hazards from an erased
memory, we’d be virtually an infant all over again and therefore a retained
memory would seem best for this belief (heaven). Yet, there is often pain associated
with memory. Would a new environment cause this pain to disappear… at least
eventually? Perhaps existing in such a completely different environment hurtful
memories could easily be forgotten. After all, one dimension tends to make largely
irrelevant the others so time and space differentials would likely help.
While pondering such questions wouldn't rule out the possibility of
immortality in heaven, they do illustrated the problematic nature of this
belief. It reflects a process more complex than seemingly necessary.
Fathoming the depths
So, in trying to make sense of it all, how much has been (or can be) overlooked?
Assuredly a lot. Due to the alien nature of etherealness, its bizarre realities,
it usually equates to shallow and mistaken observations. Of course, one can continue
trying fruitlessly along logical lines or else grasp its true essence by
tapping divine intelligence. While nothing is
spelled out as a result, knowing its logical disposition is a tremendous aid.
At any rate, whether or not there is a heaven would determine entirely whether
there can be immortal beings in physical form. If there is no heaven, then
there can be no physical presence (or so it seems).
However, a planet similar to earth could be considered heaven… couldn’t it?
After all, earth is a heavenly place in many respects. Another earth, or earth
itself, could serve nicely as heaven… once rid of the evil and treachery.
Irregardless, it's still problematic.
Even though heaven can’t be disproved, but in assuming it doesn't exist for the
reason it is seemingly 'unnatural', requiring 'hands-on' management in several
ways, that doesn't rule out the possibility of an immortal presence in
some other manner.
Whichever way the afterlife manifests itself, the immortal aspect of it isn't
hard to fathom however. In the spirit world,
immortality goes with the territory… death is only a material event. So it isn’t
a matter of being ‘granted’ immortality, immortality is the reality in the
spirit world. Since death makes no sense except to serve the interests
of a physical reality, the spirit world is a 'deathless society'. Whether or not one
survives the transformation from here to there is another matter.
The dream state
Considering all we can within these points, wouldn’t a dream state be more
logical? After all, a dream state would save God a lot of trouble…
logistical problems for one. It would also be a manner in which to
fulfill the biblical prophesy ‘as ye sow, so shall ye reap’. It would be
poetic justice unsurpassed.
In a dream state our image data banks could forever create the scenarios. After
all, feeding off of multi-gigabits of stored imagery the possibilities are
endless. However, for the purpose of demonstrating a dream state the most likely,
it doesn't matter how dreams will play a role, whether controllable, fated or
unfold in some other manner. Whatever the case, due to its spiritual
properties dreaming would seem a natural feature of the spirit world just as
much as immortality.
Aside from the direct hard-wired connection of our
subconscious mind, dreaming as mortals MAY
also be another way we're already connected. Having had mixed signals, it is
uncertain whether experiencing life as a spirit (in dreams) could be considered
a direct connection... but at least mortal dreaming serves the purpose of
making known the existence of another dimension.
Language of the spirit world
In considering all of this, keep in mind human logic doesn’t come close to
resembling the logic of the spirit world. It speaks a different 'language' of a
different format with very few expressions (impressions) with an identical
understanding. One is definitely ‘purpose’.
While most all words within mankind’s various languages differ, whether in
spelling, pronunciation or the alphabet, almost invariably they mean the same
things. Each language has a word for ‘water’ for example. Only rarely does a
language contain a phrase which expresses something in a more
descriptive way. When such a phrase is discovered, often its usage is adopted by
other languages. Latin and French terms, for example, are often adopted. Déjà vu
is one such French phrase which is often used to briefly convey to others this
odd phenomenon.
The language of the spirit world is vastly different however. There is a reason…
its realities are vastly different which, in turn, causes the corresponding
logic. While it doesn't happen this way but if the spirit world (however represented)
was so inclined, it could probably convey the thought meaning ‘water’ whereby we
would understand. However, a person, place or thing are physical nouns, something
we can easily relate to. The incomprehensible part of this alien language would be
qualities, ideas and actions... that type of nouns. In addition, it would be effectively
impossible to convert anything into our idea of verbs and adjectives. So goes
mental impressions (its format).
These great differences, as expressed through logical discourses, explains the
difficulty in accurately characterizing spirit world phenomena.
It's why the Bible and Greek mythology often had to resort to allegories. It's
also the reason mankind gets nowhere with his metaphysical theories... but to
some extent due to the shortcomings of metaphysical semantics
(the lack of characterizing terms).
Spirit world logic
So, as for the hereafter, is a dream-state the case then? Well, in order for
someone to determine (verify) this they must first learn their language…
knowing just one word (purpose) isn’t enough. Yet, it isn’t a written or spoken
language whereby a dictionary could be developed. It is more of an ‘understanding’
language similar to how eyes and body postures can send messages. Our senses of
taste and smell uses this language almost exclusively as does hearing when it
comes to sounds. Only when the day comes we can adequately express in words
sensory feelings might a dictionary be possible. As it is, the smell of a baking
cake and the sound of a saxophone remain indescribable.
Actually, the common understanding of our senses has been completely wrong as
our sixth sense can testify. In considering the
sensing capabilities of the spiritual soul
might also shed new light.
Even ‘good’ and ‘evil’ would probably be understood differently… although surely having
some similarities to our current thinking. Yet, we can’t assume that… the dreadful
acts of Mother Nature throws a monkey wrench into that logic. Perhaps the spirit
world and Mother Nature are not of the same broth however… at least not entirely.
The word ‘commitment’ should be close to having the same meaning and likewise
‘eternity’. But wait… eternity has to do with time and therefore fraught with
possibilities. We therefore may not understand what immortality entails. Perhaps
the ‘instance of life’ comes into play. In other words, life only exists in the
‘now’. One second ago, you are no longer alive… nor are you alive yet tomorrow.
Life as we know it is an aberration within the physical world. Life is actually
an injected element with a lifespan of a millisecond. If that wasn’t true, then
people would still be experiencing five minutes ago, an hour ago and last week.
This, of course, would cause chaos. Since life is not a fixture of the physical,
yet it exists in the physical, it has to be an injected element… an element with
a lifespan of a millisecond.
Life, immortality and time
Lay hidden, however, are the deeper realities. We don’t know, for example, the
relationship between time (this millisecond) and life itself… and surely there is
a relationship. Since our concept of time is merely linear, the matter can only be
explained thusly… life only exists from one millisecond to the next, it cannot
endure any longer. While this doesn’t change what immortality means to us, it
probably changes what it is.
Memories, on the other hand, are the results of life retained. So, in the same
'linear' sense, it is the baggage we carry from one millisecond to the next. This
baggage would also include happiness, sadness and illnesses... except, it's only
the memories of them carried forward. While they may linger and continue to have
an effect, they only exist in the 'now'. Only the physical impacts of one's
existence are long-lasting but only because they are physically related and can
accommodate linear thinking.
While the foregoing may appear just another unproductive way to look at things, it
should at least demonstrate the current understanding of time is lacking 'something'.
The influence from having clocks and calendars has the
effect of further distancing mankind from the reality of the matter.
Since man’s concept of time cannot accommodate ‘no beginning’ (the reality), or
even our imagination often, would indicate a problem with linear thinking. It's only
good for relative matters. However, it's just one small indication the concept is
wrong, the others just haven’t revealed themselves yet. Time seems more than just
a 'yardstick'... it's more likely a 'metabolism'.
“Cause is the effect concealed,
effect is the cause revealed”
Swami Vivekananda [1863-1902]
So… are we to forever jump from one millisecond to the next or does immortality
entail something entirely different? Perhaps within the spirit world, jumping is
not necessary. After all, spirits don’t have to contend with the physical… the
physical is where life only exists one millisecond at a time.
Adventurous dreams and vividness
Assuredly dreaming, more-so the adventure-filled types, operates within a
dimension man hasn’t recognized yet (also representing the activity of our
spiritual soul). At any rate, following death the harvesting of memories for
our dreams may become a very active pursuit. One might be able to re-live their
favorite experiences (if controllable and not fated). This vividness should not
be in doubt either. While we often associate dreams with a fuzzy picture show,
we tend to forget those occasional eye-openers.
So, it seems, a dream state is more likely the case. We shouldn’t feel cheated
though; it could be just as rewarding… perhaps even more thrilling (without the
threat of being injured or killed). We rarely know when a dream is a dream
anyway.
Apparitions and Tibetan Dream Yoga
While most all people believe the afterlife would involve one’s spirit, many seemingly
believe their spirit will take on some spiritual shape, perhaps as an ‘angel’… except
spirits, being immaterial, could not have a ‘shape’. Yet, we've all heard apparitions
have shapes. Since this would be physically impossible suggests such images are
manifested. Either the spirit world has the ability to manifest itself in a variety of
ways, or else it is humans who do the manifesting. Since there seems some evidence the
spirit world is passive, it points to our incredible powers. We may be more in
control over spiritual matters than we've ever realized.
Another thought… while Tibetan Dream Yoga advocates the exploitation of lucid
dreaming (to practice being aware one is dreaming while dreaming), and while
this may have immediate benefits, it would seem spiritually counterproductive. One
would learn more by following the dream machine, not by leading it. This would
be especially true for mortals trying to analyze the 'natural state' of
dreaming.
While 'being aware one is dreaming while dreaming' would seem to give one some
control over their dreams, I'm not sure if knowing you're dreaming would be a
good idea in the afterlife. After all, it would spoil the whole idea.
A.O. Kime
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